Thanks to penelopez for sending her Berlinale report!
"Hey Ladies,cinema | from inside the mind of krix at February 18, 2005 12:57 PM .my report is really not so spectacular....I was not so nearly beside Keanu.... I was 20 000 miles away above Keanu but for me it was also really a great feeling. Ok- i'll try to tell you about my day at the Berlinale with Keanu.......me and my friends were waiting at the foyer....I thought, that I will see him closer, but suddenly sounded the gong and that was the request, to places to go....oh what a disappointment. And you can see it by the ticket....my place was on the highest rang......anyway...I will be under one roof with Keanu......In the same time the limousine's forwards.....and I went very very slowly upstairs and when I arrived above, hung at the railing and as Keanu leave the car, I primarily recognized it on (your;)) screaming and in second at his unmistakable sugar-sweet walk......
It was an endless distance to Ke and I thought that I stay cool....no- not really— i hung at the lattice and notice nothing more around me. We had about our places to worry, and I could suspect only on the basis tumult outside in the courses, where Keanu straight was...... I sat and then I was gladly that I sat, because I was really high.....
Keanu, the other actors and the director disappeared somewhere in lower ranks (probable in the V.I.P. Lounge). And I was there above in the knowledge that Keanu is somewhere there down also in the cinema..... the telling way of the film is very unspectacular and gets along without large feelings or depths. All Actors have made a great work. And Keanu's role is the funniest of all. Keanu is remarkably loosely in the role and his dialogues are very strange. His scenes are small, but sometimes the spice lies... in the shortness..
At the end of the movie came Keanu and the other Actors on the stage. Keanu came in third place and he said:“ It is a honour to see the film here. It's an amazing time and
I think It's a wonderful film. Thank you,thank you, thank you.“.......that's all. Then they went away.....for me was this absolute great, even if the distance were enormous... however - that were perhaps also my luck, because I had not lost completely my senses...
Although I found the film good, but I think, that Thumbsucker is not a favorit of the Jury. But this year the filmfestival is not the best in the eyes of the critic and the custumors.....Also they say, that this year not enough glamour and not enough Stars there, because the festival is to close beside the Oscar-Event.....The highlight of the Berlinale this year was the visit of Keanu!!!!!Ok....that was one day in my life with Keanu......;)
Please,please forgive my bad english.....i hope, that you understand, what I talk about.......best wishes, penelopez"
Thanks so much for sharing. Your own telling of your experience is so good for me! I can't wait to see this movie!
Posted by: Parsippanynj on February 18, 2005 01:23 PMThis afternoon I actually saw the videoclip of the Berlinale press conference, which is on the official festival site web. It's nice, I was impressed 1) by Keanu's German: not bad at all, and 2) by a jerk who patently offended Keanu, first asking whether he was still part of a band, and then, after Keanu answered 'I don't play any longer', screaming "Thank you, Keanu, because you're a good actor, but not a good musician." It's incredible how stupidly offensive people can be. OK, the guy was sort of high, but Keanu was very annoyed by this. He first replied "Ok, you aren't a great journalist". And then, he just pulled back for a while, visibly upset, and then addressed the guy again: "ANd what is YOUR nickname?". It was kind of funny, cos all the cast had just been asked what their kid nicknames were (Keanu's was Keekee ;-), and when Keanu challanged the jerk asking for his nickname, I was just thinking '(what a) dickhead', and I felt just connected with Ke, because that was what I think Keanu was implying asking for the guy's nickname.
Posted by: Breeze on February 18, 2005 02:39 PM"his unmistakable sugar-sweet walk"
--Your english is fine, pen ;)
Posted by: krix on February 18, 2005 05:50 PMWoa penelopez, thank you for your report! It's awesome. How lucky you are - with Keanu in one theatre! ;-)
, that this year not enough glamour and not enough Stars there, because the festival is to close beside the Oscar-Event...
Yes that is it what has been said... on the other hand, just to mention a few actors who came around: Jerry Lewis (THE Jerry Lewis), Kevin Spacey, Angelica Huston, Susan Sarandon, Cate Blanchett, Catherine Deneuve, Dennis Quaid, Bill Murry, Rim Robbins, Will Smith, George Michael, Ralph Fiennes, Daniel Day Lewis, Bod Geldorf... last but not least a guy names Keanu Reeves. Hm, not enough stars, no glamour? For me it's enough, I am exhausted! ;-)
I did some translations of critics about 'Thumbsucker' as well and sent it to krix. Hope she will put them on the screen - they're really not bad! Really not!
Posted by: creezy on February 19, 2005 04:36 AMAs I mentioned earlier I watched the movie The Thumsucker twice, also on Saturday morning, and much to my surprise the movie got much more laughter from the audience. A lot of laughter. I wondered if it had anything to do with the director, the producers and the actors in the Berlinale Palast on Friday night, so that people didn't dare to laugh. Or maybe people who go to a premier are generally more "stiff", I don't know. Some of the people on Friday seemed to think of themselves as "very important". Maybe they lost the ability to laugh. ;-)
Penelopez, I am not sure if I should mention this, I don't want to upset you... There was a late entry. They tell you that you should be inside the cinema by the time the stars arrive but actually they block the stairs and the elevators as the stars go up the stairs and sign the pictures but afterwars they open them again briefly to let people in while the stars take their seat. From what I saw Keanu and the others sat on the ground floor with the other people towards the front of the cinema. The cinema used to be a musical theatre.
Posted by: Silke on February 19, 2005 07:21 AMThe Berlinale Palast is always a musical theatre
except during the few days each year of the Berlin International Film Festival -
and TS was only one out of two films of the first week that was universally praised.
Lou Taylor Pucci got the Silver Bear for best male actor,
which puts him in one league with Denzel Washington, Albert Finney, Klaus Kinski,
so I don't know what kind of papers you read, Penelopez!
@silke
'...got much more laughter from the audience. A lot of laughter.'
Yeah, I guess it's really because the reporters aren't in anymore while showing the movie a second or third time. Just the people who are really interested in the movies and entertainment! Or maybe they don't want to influence the jury... are impressed too much about the jury... who knows? ;-)
@Niobe
pardon Niobe? This quote sounds a bit impolite against Penelopez to me!
'Lou Taylor Pucci got the Silver Bear for best male actor, which puts him in one league with Denzel Washington, Albert Finney, Klaus Kinski, so I don't know what kind of papers you read, Penelopez!'
I think that here is a huge difference between what the jury may will think about a film (in this case by only ONE actor of the film!) – and what 'those newspapers' will write about it.
These are two completley two different kind of things, you know?! The jury made Lou win the 'Silver Teddy', that's right (btw that was announced only two hours ago, penelopez' report is online since yesterday.) And I heard A LOT of TV-reports and read A LOT of daily newspapers dissing 'thumbsucker'. In this case, Penelopez was absolutley thruthfull when she wrote this.
Nevertheless there were even also a lot of TV-reports and articles done/written by - what I would call – more talented people. And those were pretty much more 'pro' TS indeed. But there were even a lot of worse critics. And as I mentioned before: just because the jury thinks Lou Tylor Pucci played a good 'thumbsucker' means not automatically that TS is a good movie!
'TS was only one out of two films of the first week that was universally praised'
No way. If this is your impression I really wonder what other films running on the Berlinale you've seen or read critics about. Most of all, after TS was shown they didn't mentioned this film anymore until they noticed finally that TS is the only US-film which could have a little chance of winning anything. There is even a lot of internal politics habitude on a festival like this.
You have your opinion, creezy, which sounded different in your first post btw,
I have mine, let's leave it at that...
You sound as if you begrudge Lou Taylor Pucci the Bear
and as if you want to disqualify the jury!
Do you have more experience in judging films than any one of them?
I had a look at the website "www.thumbsuckingadults.com", which was mentioned at the end of the movie, where they show the credits. The website is for thumbsucking adults and shows pictures of thumbsucking celebrities as well, like Madonna, even though with Madonna sucking her thumb I wonder if there is some kind of symbolism in women sucking the thumb that I am not aware of. A woman told me after the movie that her cousin is still sucking her thumb, aged 40.
When the people involved in the movie arrived on the red carpet I wished I had known their names. You cannot call names you don't know, can you? I would have liked them to sign my ticket. *g* Tilda Swinton looked like a very open and nice person for example, and I could see why Mr. Kosslick spent so much time talking to her. I grew really fond of all the characters in the movie.
Creezy, did you watch the movie The Thumbsucker on one of the other days at the Berlinale?
I watched "Asylum" after "The Thumbsucker" and thought that it was a bit too much. Not watching both movies in one evening. ;-) I mean that they had stuffed too much into the movie "Asylum".
Posted by: Silke on February 19, 2005 10:46 AM'You sound as if you begrudge Lou Taylor Pucci the Bear
and as if you want to disqualify the jury!'
No, Niobe, I never wrote this. I only wanted to say that what the press says about a movie is (maybe) a different thing to that what a jury thinks (maybe) about a movie. What is (maybe) again a completely different thing what the audience might think about a movie. Plus what maybe qualified press thinks about a movie could be pretty much different to what the 'boulevard' press thinks and writes about it. You got it?
You asked Penelopez what kind of news she's reading (last week btw.) while the jury made such a descission (today btw.!) about Lou. This sounded a bit to me like you wanted to put her down what she doesn't deserve, I guess. And I was wondering how it comes that you could put these two things (press quotations/jury decission) together. Because they're different. The jury is not the media. The press is not the jury, okay? These are completley different things. As long the jury thinks this movie is great, the press must not have the same opinion and the opposite. That's the only thing I wanted to make clear.
The point is:on friday (the day when the movie was shown for the first time) and the next day TS received no good press in germans daily press. Point. The view on this film in germans media changed inbetween the next days when TS was discussed in other (I would call them more competent) magazines. No reason to point at Penelopez just because she read the other magazines first.
How it comes you think I would 'begrudge' Lou Taylor his price? I cannot find any sign in my comment about that – because I would never do so. If you'd read my report about the premiere and prc you would know that I wrote f.e. 'that he won my heart'. So what? I really don't get your problem!
@penelopez..."that was one day in my life with Keanu..." and that one was really good. by the way, what is the safe distance from him? i only red that he is in europe and my knees turned to cotton!
Posted by: vika on February 19, 2005 03:20 PM@ all the Ladies.....you are soo nice.....thank you for your compliments & for your attention
have a nice day :)) penelopez
@creezy special thanks to you....for protect myself ,'while i can't be here'.....
and yes....for me was also enough glamour and stars....although for me Keanu was the brightest light on the red carpet this year ;)
....we both know, were the criticisms generally very reserved to the festival. That Lou Taylor Pucci got a silver bear, was a joyful surprise 4 me!!
...and ...don't worry for reproachful things, that some people say....
and...by the way...my favorite shoot is where Keanu is on the screen and the photographers are in front of.....(the last one) great stuff !!:)
special greetings
penelopez
@ niobe & @ Silke: creezy it already mentioned: I really got your problem...... actually I would like to deliver no comment to your postings, only as much (..and I'm very angry about, that I cannot express myself in the english language so well): I cannot judge, how large the laughter was on Saturday, since I was not there, I can only say that also became laughed on Friday. But I would'nt say, that the level of the laughter anything say about the quality of a film. Or about the audience!?? I refer my information from different sources: tv,newspapers, friends, internet. But I mean sources actually unimportant. At last but not at least I form my judgement from my feeling. And my judgement is not bound at objectivity. It is absolutly subjective!!!! And I grant myself completely personal judgement and I grant it every each humans. How this is the world we are live. And that's the reason for I leave also your opinion (also about me) and leave everything at it is.....
penelopez
PS: Assumption: Aviator does not in-collect all eleven awards in the OSCAR evening , although Aviator is the favorite movie, we all know this. But your favorite also is Aviator??? And you tell anyone that want to hear , that Aviator would get winning in all categories. What do you do then? What do you do??
Posted by: penelopez on February 20, 2005 03:57 AMI am not sure if I understand your posts properly then, penelopez. So are you saying that you didn't like the movie?
I think the laughter says something about the quality of the movie if it is said to be a "comedy". I have seen The Thumbsucker being labeled as a comedy. So I suppose it is a good thing if people actually laugh when they see a comedy. Of course you cannot comment on the laughter on Saturday if you didn't watch it in the cinema on Satuday. There was A LOT of laughter on Friday as well? Maybe I was in some cloud myself and didn't notice. I thought at one point as well: "Am I actually sitting here looking at the same screen as Keanu Reeves is just doing?" *g*
@silke: no comment
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